« June 2008 | Main | August 2008 »

July 24, 2008

Oh For Pete's Sake

UPDATE:  See comments.

From PFT:

A league source tells us that there are rumblings that Eagles guard Shawn Andrews might not show up for training camp, apparently due to displeasure with his contract.

You know what?  If this is true, Eff you, dude.  No one forced you to sign a $35 million contract back when people were still worried about your ability to keep your weight down.  The franchise wasn't going to get its bonus money back if your faux-serious injury last year had ended your career.

Remember this article?  You should, since it's on your website.  It's the one that says something like this:

You really do never know. Which is at least partly why Andrews signed a 7-year contract extension yesterday that a foxsports.com report valued at up to $40 million overall with about $10 million in bonus money, a value denied by none of the principals.

...

"Well, some guys feel like they can play out their deal and things happen," Andrews said. "But my rookie year, I had a very unfortunate accident [a fractured fibula in his first game], and you never know what tomorrow is going to hold. I have a daughter and my mom; I want that security and just to be here. I am an Eagle, and this is where I want to be. I haven't been to any other team, but I have heard stories from guys at other teams, and this is where I want to be."

Sounds great.  Now prove it by showing up and playing football.

Yeah, you're good, but always remember the bottom line:  You're Not Brian Westbrook.

Maybe I'll go shopping for Max Jean-Gilles jerseys.  If they come in my size.

MARK WHIPPLE SIGHTING

The good news -- Mark Whipple finally gets permission to talk to the media.

The bad news -- He, um, doesn't say anything interesting:

Whipple was eager to get back into the league, after a year spent "being a dad," he said, to sons Spencer and Austin. "You got edgy, you got antsy," he acknowledged.

...

"That's the nature of this league," he said. "Sometimes the quarterback gets too much credit, sometimes he gets too much blame."

...

Whipple said the atmosphere around the Eagles is a lot like what it was like with the Steelers, the expectations and the intensity.  "The players are focused. There's leadership, they're showing the young guys," he said. "The goals are defined for the veterans. Somewhere along the road, you hope you can bring something" that will help achieve them.

Andy Reid on Whipple's role:

"I think right now Mark is just learning the offense and getting used to the system; this is a new offense for him. He's somebody who is another set of eyes, right now," Reid said yesterday, the final full day of workouts with rookies and select vets before the full squad reports this evening. "Pat does a great job with [developing Kolb], Marty does a great job with that part of it. It's a great opportunity for Mark to learn from those guys and then share ideas with them.

"He'll be another set of eyes. I'll give him some things to look at. Marty gives him certain projects to do. It's a matter of just kind of getting acclimated to what we do here."

Okay ... but when does he start the install on the Chattanooga formation?

(Now I almost feel bad about this.)

July 23, 2008

Radio Heads Up

UPDATE:  Podcast is up.

Programming note:  assuming nothing breaking comes up between now and then, I'll be on tonight with Harry and Dan on 950 ESPN at 8:45 ET to talk some birds. 

Cancel That Pre-Order

I guess they're going a different direction with the calendar this year:

Calendar

Morning Quick Hits

Is this good news or bad news:

The good news on this relatively dull day was that the tendinitis that forced the Eagles to shut down McNabb in June is gone in July. The quarterback said the tightness he felt had disappeared and his velocity was back. What said even more was the way he threw the football.

He hit wide receiver Michael Gasperson with a precisely thrown laser in the afternoon for a 20-yard touchdown during a seven-on-seven drill. Rookie DeSean Jackson said he could tell the difference between this McNabb and the one that was struggling to throw the football last month.

"That's more velocity than I've ever seen in my life," Jackson said. "It caught me off guard, and I dropped a pass that hit right off my chest. I won't let that happen to me again."

Yes, it's good that McNabb's shoulder is healthy.  But I think we've all seen quite enough of wide receivers struggling to adapt to #5's velocity.

- - - - - - -

How exactly does one perform a "coordinated 'McNabb, you rock!' cheer"?  I'm having trouble figuring out where the accented syllables would go. 

McNABB You ROCK
McNABB You ROCK

McNaaaaaaaab Yooooooooou ROCK
McNaaaaaaaab Yooooooooou ROCK

You can almost see why he gets booed so much.  "Donnie Sucks" just flows off an inebriated tongue so much more easily.

- - - - - - -

Following that same link, is Sean Considine really pretending to run back interceptions that are actually incomplete passes? 

- - - - - - -

I'm loving the way reporters are finding creative ways to call Westbrook's contract demands "nuts" while still keeping that crucial journalistic objectivity:

Tomlinson's guaranteed money was actually $21 million, and he signed his eight-year, $60 million deal with the Chargers when he was 25. Westbrook will be 29 on Sept. 2, and age typically has not worked to the advantage of a running back in contract negotiations.

- - - - - - -

Still love Jim Johnson:

"It's always been kind of a passing camp, without pads," Johnson said. "They're here, they're both signed, they're learning in the classroom and spending time with [defensive line coach] Pete [Jenkins] in the classroom. Right now, I don't think they're missing a lot on the field. Wait until we get the pads on."

Jenkins, by the way, got the morning practice off since he had nobody to coach.

"Pete's in the over-60 club," Johnson joked, a reference to Reid's plan to rest over-30 veterans for the morning practice every third day of camp.

- - - - - - -

I dropped the link, but somewhere I read that Bradley and Gaither would have the helmet radios for the defense this year, with Bradley being the primary guy and Omar wearing the no-radio helmet when they're both out there.

Seems like that's kind of a pain in the neck, but I guess they can always just go back to the signals for a few plays if Bradley comes out.

Also suggests that Bradley really is going to be a full-time player this year.  It would be weird for someone other than the MIKE to call the signals, but still, if he's shuttling in and out, you'd think they'd do it.

- - - - - - -

MSM Eagles blogs are proliferating at an alarming rate.  Eagletarian, which might as well be called LesBowenarian, came online this summer from the Daily News.  Now the Inquirer has gotten into the act with Birds' Eye View.  (Note the oh-so-newspaper-y use of correct punctuation.  That's not how we roll here in the blogger realm, my good man.)

And not to be completely left out, philly.com has started a more catholic NFL blog called: Moving the Chains.

Three seems like a good number for now, but should our local media goliaths find a need for YAEB, may I suggest a potential candidate?

July 22, 2008

Pay Westbrook Like LDT

From an outsider's perspective, one of the problems with sports contract negotiations seems to be a lack of creativity on the part of the two sides in defining exactly what a successful outcome would be. 

Of course, in the salary cap age, the bottom line is always going to be the bottom line.  There are only two numbers that truly, objectively matter -- the guaranteed dollars and the total contract value -- but that isn't the way things usually work out, is it?

Consider Brian Westbrook's case.  By any measure, the guy makes a ton of money.  If he plays out the full term of the six-year deal (five year extension) he signed in 2005, he'll make more than $25 million. 

I could live on that.

We also know that if this were 1998, rather than 2008, Westbrook would be perfectly happy with his contract, and not just because the dollar actually used to be worth something.  The problem for Westbrook isn't how much money he makes, it's how much money everyone else makes.

And in this case, by everyone else we pretty much mean LaDanian Tomlinson, Clinton Portis and a few other guys.  All of whom make more money than Westbrook, even though he is just as good as any of them, at least in this offense.

Westbrook seems never to have gotten over the fact that he was just a third-round pick coming out of college.  He knew even back then that he was something special, it just took awhile for everyone else to figure it out.  But because he came in as a mid-round pick, Westbrook never got the kind of enormous rookie deal that sets a guy for life.  It seems that ever since then he's been playing catch-up in his own mind.

The challenge the Eagles now face is that Westbrook doesn't seem that interested in being fairly compensated for his undoubtedly superlative performance.  It's not about that.  It's about the headline that says:

Westbrook Signs for XX years, $XX million
Becomes league's highest-paid running back

That's what's driving statements like this:

"If LaDainian [Tomlinson] got paid $25 million guaranteed in 2003 and now it's 2008, the next person needs to be paid $30 million guaranteed," Westbrook said. "It works its way up. You can't sit here and say, 'I'm as good as LaDainian right now, and I'm getting paid five years after him. . . . So I'll take $15 million.' That doesn't make any sense."

In the same story where you read this:

The Eagles said they made a fair offer to Westbrook and maintain that [Westbrook's former agent Fletcher] Smith also believed it was a reasonable deal. Smith has not returned phone calls since the news broke that he is no longer the running back's agent, and Westbrook also has not been available for comment.

(And while we're on the subject of Westbrook's former agent, are we sure that it was Westbrook who ended the relationship?  Given that it's been more than a week and he hasn't picked someone new, could it be that Smith was the one who decided there was no point in representing a player who wouldn't take his advice?  It's worth pondering.)

As two other writers have already pointed out, there's a better chance the Eagles re-sign Terrell Owens than give $30 million guaranteed to a 29-year-old running back, no matter how good he is. 

Which means we are officially at an impasse.

Now, there are really only a couple ways this can work out.  Westbrook is not going to play out the next three years at his current contract.  I'd give him one more season max before he starts going all Chad Johnson (but with class) on us.  At the same time, the Eagles aren't going to give Westbrook the kind of money he claims he's looking for. 

Soooo ... what has to happen here is for the "reasonable" money the Eagles are offering to be positioned in such a way that Westbrook can justifiably feel as if he's being recognized as not just a great running back, but truly one of the elite.

I have an idea on that.

Westbrook likes to compare himself to LaDanian Tomlinson.  I think it's fair to say that Brian thinks he and LDT are the two best backs in the league.  So start by taking a look at the contract LDT signed in 2004.

LaDainian Tomlinson signed the richest contract for a running back in NFL history Saturday, a deal with the San Diego Chargers worth nearly $60 million.

The star back will get $21 million in guarantees in the eight-year deal.

Westbrook signed his six-year deal a year later and got a measly $10.5 million guaranteed and $25 million overall.  So here's my proposal: give Westbrook a two-year extension that turns his original six-year deal into an eight year deal and bumps the value past what LDT got.  Here's how you could do it.

Start with Westbrook's current deal (all numbers from the indispensable EaglesCap.com):

WestbrookContractCurrent

What we need to do here is find some way to bump the guaranteed money up to what LDT got by adding roughly $10 million in bonuses.  But since Brian has suggested that the Eagles offered him $15 million, let's go with that.

To make that happen, all we have to do is give Brian roster bonuses over the next three seasons of $5 million a year.  (As you may have heard, the Eagles have plenty of cap room for such an arrangement.)  That changes his contract to look like this:

WestbrookContractWithBon2  

Which, hey, is pretty nice of me, but still leaves Westbrook about $20 million short of where LDT is sitting.  To fix that, we add on two more years and bump up some base salaries:

WestbrookContractNew2  

And voila, Westbrook has an eight-year, almost $64 million contract with $25 million in guaranteed money.  By my calculations, that makes Westbrook the highest-paid running back in the history of the NFL.  And if you compare those numbers above with the specifics of the LDT deal you will see they are very much in line, with Westbrook coming out just a little bit ahead.  One could in fact argue that this is exactly the sort of deal Westbrook would have signed in 2005 if everyone had known then how good he was going to be.

Of course, by structuring the deal this way, the Eagles have some protection too.  If something happens with Westbrook by 2011, the team can part ways without crippling their future cap.  But's those two years are just gravy to Westbrook, since he's getting $20 million in new money over the next three years and doesn't have a contract that extends beyond 2010 anyway. 

I'm telling you, this could work.

Some possible objections:

Isnt't this really just a two-year extension and not and eight-year deal?

Yes, but that doesn't matter if the team, player and agent are all on board with the idea that this represents the largest contract ever given to an NFL running back.  Which it would be.  By a very defensible measure.  Just repeat it over and over.

But why would Westbrook agree to this deal?

Because it's a $20 million raise with $15 million in new guaranteed money and would make his total eight-year package the largest contract for a running back in NFL history.

Isn't that a lot of money to be guaranteeing a guy with such a checkered injury history?

Yes, yes it is.  But in this case you're weighing the risk of a possible career-threatening injury versus the absolute certainty that at some point this whole situation is going to blow up if something isn't done.  And besides, the new money at the end of the deal isn't guaranteed, so if things don't work out when he's 32 years old, both sides can move on.

Won't such a huge contract cripple the Eagles' salary cap situation, at least for the next few years?

Absolutely not, for three reasons:

1)  Donovan McNabb's enormous contract is coming off the books soon.  That's $10 million to $16 million of cap space each year right there.  Plenty of money to re-sign Kevin Kolb.

2)  With the cap exploding at the rate it is, very few teams are going to have problems staying under the limit.  Which means that a) there's room for this sort of deal and b) salary cap space is less valuable going forward since it won't be as scarce.

3)  The Eagles have locked up the vast majority of their young players to deals that will be sub-market in a few years.  That's going to cause some problems eventually, but what it means is that there's plenty of cap room for this.

I'm sorry, but that's just an insane amount of money for a running back.  Especially one who's already under contract.

Over the next three seasons, the Eagles will pay Asante Samuel just over $32 million in cash.  Under my proposal, Westbrook would receive $30 million over that same time period.

Which player do you think is more important to the success of the franchise between now and 2010?

July 21, 2008

About That "30+ Club"

Five points:

1.  Why is no one mentioning Kevin Curtis?  Guy's 30th birthday was four days ago. 

2.  Juqua Parker too.  Birthday: 5/15/78

3.  And what about Darren Howa--- oh right, he should probably try to stay on the field.

4.  Jerome McDougle is only five months away from qualifying.

5.  No doubt Reid is doing this to try to save the legs of his veterans, but surely it doesn't hurt that some of the most important position battles (Safety, OT of the Future) will come at those 30+ positions. 

Now What's Lito Worth?

So I know some people think the Eagles "always ask for too much in trade," but not dumping Lito for some crappy third-round draft pick is looking pretty good right now, isn't it? 

I mean, Washington gave up a second and a sixth for Jason Taylor, a very fine player who can't wait to stop playing football.  And the news has just broken that the Saints have traded a second and a fifth for Jeremy Shockey.

Now Shockey's not a bad player, but his numbers are really just a half-step better than L.J. Smith's.  Tell me in a league where cornerbacks are considered about twice as valuable as tight ends that Lito Sheppard isn't worth more in a trade.

Also, so long Shockey.  Been nice hating you.

The Ball Starts Rolling

Trying to get a sense of the mood out there right now... 

Is it just me, or is everyone else starting to get excited, too?  I realize it's July, but this feels like the start of football season to me. 

I'm pretty pumped.

Although not everyone is.  Boy, it really must suck to have to go to training camp every year and walk around with that special media access badge and interview all those coaches and players the rest of us only get to see on autograph days

They should just do the whole thing in Philadelphia, because the Northeast Extension is just sooooo loooooong.  And have you seen what there is to do in Bethlehem? 

Anywho, grinches be darned because, ladies and gentlemen, it's FOOTBALL SEASON.

Ish.

- - - - - - -

As the Brian Westbrook salary saga continues to lurch forward in fits and starts (and could the local commentariat be any more obvious about how hard they're rooting for some training camp drama this year?) I thought you all might be interested in a few charts I worked up looking at price vs. performance for last year's offense.  Here's the raw data:

PvPTable  

For the salary column, I took the information from EaglesCap.com and computed an average salary over the course of a full contract.  I realize that's only one of about 20 ways one could go about doing that, but it seemed like a pretty fair approach for this kind of back-of-the-envelope sort of thing.  And no, I didn't give Mahe his $4 million pseudo bonus that was just a salary cap shift.

Here's the same information organized a little differently to show touches, yards and touchdowns per dollar spent on each player:

PvPTableProrate

And in graph form (click for full size):

PvP

I didn't mess with the y-axis scales to prove a point, that's just how excel spit it out.  And there's nothing really definitive about this.  Around the league, I would bet starting wide receivers have much higher prices per yards than running backs, for a variety of reasons. 

But if you look at the chart -- and take out Mahe (return man mostly) and Hunt (never played) -- there's sort of a nice relationship there between dollars spent and yards produced.  Schobel is the clear underachiever in that group -- you can kind of see L.J.'s point, by the way -- but the two starting wide receivers also seem a little off, if only by the eyeball test.

- - - - - -

In other news, good article today on why Westbrook's age, not his production, is the real issue.  As that bountybowl guy has mentioned several times, you just know Joe Banner has a printout in the top drawer of his desk showing the rapidly declining performance of running backs past a certain age.

I'm big-time in the "pay the man his money" camp, but if Westbrook really is looking for something like $30 million guaranteed, then I can see why an agreement hasn't exactly been easy to reach.

Interesting in this case, though, that this is one of the rare times that this information came from the player, and not some anonymous source.  The general source for that sort of thing is usually a little closer to the NovaCare complex.

- - - - - -

Finally, this just goes to show that Dan Snyder hasn't learned a thing.  All offseason people have been talking about how Snyder had changed his business model and was committed to building long-term depth rather than just signing the latest quick fix. 

Oops.  Not so much.

The best part about this, if you're an Eagles fan, is that it's almost no net gain for the Redskins.  No, I'm not saying I'm rooting for guys to get hurt.  But since the Daniels injury happened, basically Washington went out and gave away second and sixth round picks for a guy who's a better player, but not that much better. 

If he's going to be in the division, that's the best place for him to be.

July 18, 2008

Football's Back!

Full slate of coverage at philly.com today.

Hallelujah.

Check out this particulary informative pdf that lays out the Eagles training camp schedule.  Interestingly, it also includes a picture of Sav Rocca practicing either field goals or kickoffs?

Best line in the bunch:

Booker is more of a third-down back than Westbrook ... but he sure seems to be able to run a pattern and catch a pass. Andy Reid likes backs who do that, the Daily News has learned.

--Les Bowen

About Me

Eagles 2008 Schedule

  • Sep 7 - STL - 1:00
    Sep 15 - @DAL - 8:30
    Sep 21 - PIT - 4:15
    Sep 28 - @CHI - 8:15
    Oct 5 - WAS - 1:00
    Oct 12 - @SF - 4:15
    Oct 19 - Bye
    Oct 26 - ATL - 1:00
    Nov 2 - @SEA - 4:15
    Nov 9 - NYG - 8:15
    Nov 16 - @CIN - 1:00
    Nov 23 - @BAL - 1:00
    Nov 27 - ARI - 8:15
    Dec 7 - @NYG - 1:00
    Dec 15 - CLE - 8:30
    Dec 21 - @WAS - 1:00
    Dec 28 - DAL - 1:00

Links

Other Blogs